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Teacher...Working-Class?

Discussion dans 'Forum Quebec Underground' créé par Pat77_qc, 4 Juin 2009.

  1. Pat77_qc

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    Would a high school teacher be considered a working-class profession? In my opinion, teachers are a very important part of the working-class, I mean alot of the shit taught in high school is bullshit but some of it is necessary. A lot of trades are math Dependant, A firm grasp of history is very important (even if HS history is bullshit), even to a certain point language classes are helpful. Also teachers are under-paid and denied the right to make professional choices for them selves much like the rest of the working-class. What do you think? Discuss and debate.
     
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  2. QuebecUnderground

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    Re : Teacher...Working-Class?

    Teachers are part of the working class just like everyone who is working (except the bosses of course)

    Education is very important, it's a necessity -- even in anarchism or communism. Currently the school system might look like bullshit, but think about how it could be if it was a self-managed structure teaching something really useful.

    Anyway, if we want to build an alternative society we need to rethink the education system and provice a real education.

    A lot of famous anarchist thinkers have written theories about self-managed libertarian education "systems". And it has historycally proven it's succes : some of those concepts were used in the autonomous zones during the spanish revolution.
     
  3. Pat77_qc

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    Any books/articles you could recommend on the topic?
     
  4. QuebecUnderground

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    I will try to find something for you, but most of the texts i have are in french :(
     
  5. Monsieur B_qc

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    Re : Teacher...Working-Class?

    You know, I have problems with people who consider intellectuals as outside of the working class...
    Sure, getting a degree takes money, but now in many countries post-high school studies are available to people from lower income families. I'm one of those, and even though in Quebec, a university degree is more expansive than in, for instance, Denmark or Finland, or even France, it's something that can be made up for by working, not always easy, but certainly not out of reach.
    Sure, intellectuals have a responsability, some (mostly out of post-modern scholarly backgrounds) simply waste their privileges away by doing something of no use to anyone... but workers of the brain are still a necessity as much as any other worker. Furthermore, far right groups have always supported anti-intellectualism, since without "intellectuals", it's all the more easy to fool people who might not be into the whole political or philosophical thinking thing.
     
  6. PhantomGreed_qc

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    Teachers are a part of the working class, but also, especially in America, are tools used by the state to control and conform. High School "education" in this country is a joke. In fact, the whole public school system, from Kindergarten to graduation is filled with lies, and used to secure the veil of capitalist morals of greed and oppression to each of their newly shaped pawns. Their is always an exception to the rule, but one speck of light in a sea of darkness does very little to object and oppose.

    Universities are somewhat different, but only from an individual standpoint, as in an individual professor with a sound set of unbiased views who is still objective, or who presents history TRUTHFULLY. I was opened to leftist thought and rhetoric at a young age, before I got out of High School, but I can see how coming into a college enviroment would open someones mind after coming out off such a constricted form of "education" that is presented here, but from what I have noticed it doesn't succeed the majority of the time, or there would be more objection.

    Reform is not what we need... We need a whole new system. I am sick of the word "reform'. It is nothing but an excuse to further the capitalist system and silence the objectors with liberal bullshit language..
    Anok and Peace...
     
  7. QuebecUnderground

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    I totally agree with you, especially on the part about reforms. There's nothing we can do with the current education system, we must just abolish it and build something totally new and different. There's too much to change.

    The current education system is built to teach the capitalist values and make sure you will be a good future slave. Education is one of the most important part of a society to build the solidarity values anarchists believe in (if we were to make a revolution, education would one of the most important thing to ensure egocentric capitalist values are destroyed), but it is currently wasted by teaching a bunch of useless stuff.
     
  8. vasma_qc

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    i dont think so
     
  9. nayman92_qc

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    Teacher's are working class